Warp Five 183: Its Like The Toner in the Copier was Out / by Guest User

Comparing "Identity Crisis" and "Extinction."

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Running Time: 1 hour 3 minutes 42 seconds
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You can call it an homage, call it inspired by, or even call it a coincidence, but, after more than 750 episodes of Star Trek, every once in a while you come across a story that seems vaguely familiar to you. Star Trek fans love to compare and contrast these stories to determine which was done better.

In this episode of Warp Five, hosts Patrick Devlin and Brandi Jackola pit the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "Identity Crisis" against Star Trek: Enterprise's "Extinction". We discuss transmission of viruses, primal vs. intelligent, LeVar Burton, bloodthirsty hunting parties, point of view, and the theme of lifeforms taking over other lifeforms.

Chapters

Intro (00:00:00)
Welcome Boomers (00:01:30)
"Identity Crisis" (00:10:09)
"Extinction" (00:24:46)
Comparing the Episodes (00:35:34)
Final Thoughts (00:51:41) Closing (00:53:41)

Host

Brandi Jackola and Patrick Devlin

Production

Patrick Devlin (Editor) Brandon-Shea Mutala (Producer) C Bryan Jones (Executive Producer) Matthew Rushing (Executive Producer) Ken Tripp (Executive Producer) Norman C. Lao (Associate Producer) Floyd Dorsey (Associate Producer) Mike Morrison (Associate Producer) Tim Cooper (Associate Producer) Justin Oser (Associate Producer) Mark Flessa (Associate Producer) Chris Tribuzio (Associate Producer) Jim McMahon (Associate Producer) Richard Marquez (Production Manager) Tony Robinson (Show Art) Brandon-Shea Mutala (Patreon Manager)

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